"Sharyn" <sharyn_at_witsend.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Officer <bobofficers_at_invalid.net> wrote in
> news:d0pm21p5vse83i48v0cmibf1lrvjbu0pdr_at_4ax.com:
>
> [...]
>>>> There is a tale of the source of the Kitawah/kituwah ... They came
>>>> from a city with Tall buildings that sunk into the waters.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.earthbow.com/native/contents.htm#cherokee
>>>> Might be the site...
>>>
>>>I looked for it, and read about the mound in North Carolina, but
>>>couldn't find anything on the city with tall buildings. I did find
>>>this, though, and got a lump in my throat as I read it:
>>>http://www.wolflodge.org/sananda/walked-america.htm
>>
>> Odd... this site mimics the mexican cherokee lore site...
>>
>
> Does it? Why is that odd?
>
>> http://www.cherokeenationmexico.com/ancientbeliefs.html
>>
>> but you'll find it is highly rejected by most natives americans and
>> lots of Cherokee.
>
> That's ok, doesn't mean it isn't true. :)
>
> The Chickasaw tribe rejects my husband's family, too, and we have
> documented proof of direct descent from his full blooded Chickasaw
> great+grandfather at the time of the Oklahoma Indian Territory "grants."
> (He is on the 1890 census roster, and we have birth and marriage
> certificates all the way down the line).
>
> They're pissed off at him (so the family story goes) because he was angry
> and wouldn't accept the acres they were all given, so he burned down the
> buildings there and walked off. <g> His descendants are just like him,
> too.
>
> I saw all the documents myself, and had several long conversations with
> my husband's aunt, who went and petitioned the tribe, and was quite
> frustrated at the snubbing she received. <shrug> All people can be
> stubborn.
>
> Did you read all the people talking about these legends as a preface to
> the excerpts from the book? Lot's of different tribes were represented,
> and the attitude seemed to be "These are the stories handed down, take
> them for what they're worth to you." The author of the book says he
> transcribed the stories from a Kituwah elder. Doesn't say which one on
> the site, but maybe in the book itself.
>
> ( some place I have a web page that gives some
>> 'details' about LDS and native beliefs. This group sounds like one of
>> the few NA that have converted to the LDS. )
>>
>
> LDS?
>
>> http://www.native-languages.org/cherokee_culture.htm
>> gives you some idea of the diversity of opinions just "inside one
>> tribe".
>>
>
> Oh, I can imagine. People rarely agree on things. And even if the legends
> are true, I can understand many (especially modern NA people) rejecting a
> "white man's god."
No , you can't, not really...why not just say what you obviously mean,
i.e., the "white man's god" is the only real god.
Received on Sun Mar 06 2005 - 17:51:56 PST